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Can a player with a specific magic weapon, such as a bowstaff, enchant it further than it already is? Say said player had a normal +1/+1 bowstaff as per the MIC. Could he/she then make it a +2 in each...

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Quote:1) Magic weapons should be upgradeable, somehow. Everyone agrees on this. A flaming sylvan scimitar should be able to exist.I disagree that a flaming sylvan scimitar should be able to exist. It...

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It's not that item creation rules and guidelines should be different. But, when the DM can flatly deny the creation of something without changing the rules, they just don't seem particularly...

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Quote:I disagree that a flaming sylvan scimitar should be able to exist. It may be able to exist, but to assume it does is a notable assumption, and if it doesn't exist, it can not be upgraded to....

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misattribute to your opponent an obviously nonsensical positionActually, that would be pretty cool to have as a class feature ;-)Finally, for the first time in my life, I understand something! "Leon"...

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Quote:It isn't 'changing' the rules, so much as adding a rule of "that item shall not exist" to the ruleset.It's changing the rules just as much as adding the rule that says 'This item shall exist at...

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You're... confusing things, zadoc.It is completely accurate that we don't have rules saying that flaming sylvan scimitars exist. We don't have rules saying that sylvan scimitars exist, either. Or...

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Quote:Again, please don't attribute nonsensical positions (like "the rules say this item *must* exist and *must* be craftable) to your opponents. It's neither helpful nor attractive.It is what...

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And all I'm saying is that, by following those rules/guidelines, the final price can be 'You can't have this' if the DM feels that's the correct price, and you're still following those...

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Looking through the thread, it seemed like the discussion was answered, in that respect.If your DM prices a flaming sylvan scimitar (or whatever item), you can certainly upgrade a sylvan scimitar (or...

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I can't understand why you would *want* to call them rules. I feel that rules have to be followed. You can certainly change them, but then that new rule has to be followed.Guidelines on the other hand...

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Quote:If we are changing the rules to disallow its existence, and following the rules to give it a price, that is saying that the rules say the item exists, and you are changing the rules by not...

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Quote:Ah, okay, I see your parsing error. When Carthain negated the "shouldn't", as in "shouldn't exist", he didn't mean "must" but rather "can". I'm sure this is the sort of thing that would be very...

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That's a fine rule. Another fine rule is saying +5 weapons cost 50,000gp. To draw a corollary. Both are rules that say something with a certain cost (5th level spell, or 50kGP) can not provide more...

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... and really, what isn't?

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